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'''Tetrahydropyridines''' are a group of flavor active compounds found in some wines and sour beers. While harmless, they are often considered to be off-flavors in wine and beer. With the recent increase in spontaneously fermented wine and lower sulphite usage by certain wine producers, these flavors have become more prevalent in wine <ref name="Moulis_2023">[https://oeno-one.eu/article/view/7481 Moulis, P., Miot-Sertier, C., Cordazzo, L., Claisse, O., Franc, C., Riquier, L., Albertin, W., Marchand, S., De Revel, G., Rauhut, D., & Ballestra, P. (2023). Which microorganisms contribute to mousy off-flavour in our wines?. OENO One, 57(2), 177–187. https://doi.org/10.20870/oeno-one.2023.57.2.7481.]</ref>. Forms of tetrahydropyridines (abbreviated and often referred to generically by brewers and winemakers as '''TetrahydropyridineTHP''' (), specifically 62-Acetylacetyl-2,3,4,5,6-tetrahydropyridine [<nowiki />ATHP/ACTPY] and 2-acetyl-1,4,5,6-tetrahydropyridine (abbreviated ATHP or ACTPY), 2-ethyltetrahydropyridine (abbreviated ETHP or ETPY), and 2-pyrroline [<nowiki />acetylpyrroline (abbreviated ACPY] or APY) <ref name="Snowdon"></ref>, which are classified as a [https://en.wikipedia".org/wiki/Ketone ketone] and a cyclic [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imine imine] <ref>[httphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6-Acetyl-2,3,4,5-tetrahydropyridine "6-Acetyl-2,3,4,5-tetrahydropyridine". Wikipedia. Retrieved 307/21022/20152016.]</ref>, which are classified as ketones <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1034461653248715/?comment_id=1034611563233724&offset=0&total_comments=29 Humbard, Matt. Milk The funk Discussion. 3/10/2015.]</ref>) They are commonly attributed to the ''"mousy''", ''"urine'' " (in high amounts) ''cheerios'' Cheerios® or Cap''Captain Crunch'' n Crunch® (in low amounts), ''"breakfast cereal''", or more generically, ''"cracker biscuit'' " flavor in sour beersand wine. The flavor is detected towards the end of the swallow, and the aftertaste can remain for more than 10 minutes <ref name="Stenseels_2015_Essential">[https://www.academia.edu/19646963/Brettanomyces_Bruxellensis_Essential_Contributor_in_Spontaneous_Beer_Fermentations_Providing_Novel_Opportunities_for_the_Brewing_Industry Brettanomyces Bruxellensis, Essential Contributor in Spontaneous Beer Fermentations Providing Novel Opportunities for the Brewing Industry. Jan Steensels. BrewingScience, Sept/Oct 2015 (Vol. 68). 2015.]</ref>. 30% of winemakers are not able to detect the flavor of THP in wine (we do not know if this statistic is reflected in sour beer, but some people have reported not being able to taste THP in sour beer) <ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=8yegCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT1784&lpg=PT1784&dq=oxford+companion+to+wine+Once+detected,+the+taint+renders+the+wine+undrinkable+and+worsens+in+the+glass,+but+as+many+as+30%25+of+winemakers+are+unable+to+detect+it.&source=bl&ots=-3o-uaZUgX&sig=ET7jldMp3Xdk61FknJ54k4P40CQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsiZ7bxNPaAhVO8WMKHQHaBgMQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=oxford%20companion%20to%20wine%20Once%20detected%2C%20the%20taint%20renders%20the%20wine%20undrinkable%20and%20worsens%20in%20the%20glass%2C%20but%20as%20many%20as%2030%25%20of%20winemakers%20are%20unable%20to%20detect%20it.&f=false Jancis Robinson. "The Oxford Companion to Wine". Oxford University Press. Sep 17, 2005. Pg 483.]</ref>. The exact cause low pH of this perceived sour beer or wine makes it harder to detect the flavor and often impossible to detect the aroma. An increase in pH is not definitiveneeded in order to detect the flavor of THP, and the mouth's salivary pH serves that purpose when tasting beer or wine with THP. For example, as the mouth's pH adjusts back up after swallowing a sip of sour beer or wine, the THP becomes detectable in the aftertaste. This effect on sensory detection by low pH might also explain why some people are better at detecting it since people have different pH's on the surface of their tongues and saliva <ref name="Snowdon">[http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf0528613 Mousy Off-Flavor: A Review. Eleanor M. Snowdon, Michael C. Bowyer, Paul R. Grbin, and Paul K. Bowyer. 2006.]</ref>. Diacetyl has also been is sometimes mistakenly indicated as a potential cause to this flavor of "mousy" flavors in sour beers. However, ''Tetrahydropyridine'' seems to be however, tetrahydropyridines are the most likely accepted cause. The flavor tends to age out of sour beersafter 2-6 months in the fermenter, kegs, or bottles (although the aging periods as long as possibly 8-12 months have been reported on MTF <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1447796001915276/?comment_id=1447826811912195&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D MTF thread about how long THP takes to age out with comment by Mark Trent. 10/24/2016.]</ref>). The exact mechanism for this how THP ages out of beer is not fully understood , and it is unknown whether cold or room temperature storage speeds up the breakdown process. It is more likely that room temperature storage will result in faster breakdown of THP, and anecdotes from MTF members seem to support this <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1451857101509166/ MTF discussion regarding THP degredation under room temperature versus refrigeration temperatures. 10/28/2016.]</ref><ref>[http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/cheerios-character-after-bottling-504468/#post6516169 Tonsmeire, Michael. Homebrewtalk.com post 1. 11/21/2014. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref><ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1972251579469713/?comment_id=1972290999465771&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D Tariq Ahmed and Shane Martin. Milk The Funk thread about THP aging out of cider at room temperature. 01/30/2018.]</ref><ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2069944559700414/?comment_id=2070067719688098&reply_comment_id=2070405472987656&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R3%22%7D Ryan Sandlin. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on THP aging out after 90 days of room temperature storage. 04/23/2018.]</ref>. Michael Tonsmeire also Many brewers have noticed that pitching rehydrated wine yeast at bottling packaging reduces the amount/duration of this flavor in kegs and bottles <ref>[http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/cheerios-character-after-bottling-504468/#post6522207 Tonsmeire, Michael. Homebrewtalk.com post 2. 11/21/2014. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref>.
==Production==
[[File:THP Pathway.JPG|thumb|400|Proposed pathway for THP production by ''EditorBrettanomyces's note: special thanks to ' <ref name="Elsevier">[httphttps://wwwbooks.homebrewtalkgoogle.com/f127/brettbooks?hl=en&lr=&id=KJJwAgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA346&dq=brettanomyces+Tetrahydropyridine&ots=ktbn8PR_fF&sig=r3lkcV-straingBa-production-athp-449852pK86HSOgFDVIJVDk#v=onepage&q=brettanomyces%20Tetrahydropyridine&f=false Managing Wine Quality: Oenology and Wine Quality. A Reynolds Elsevier, Sep 30, 2010. Pg 359.]</ref>]] It is thought that THP in mousy wines/ ne0t0ky0beers is mostly produced by microorganisms. All species of ''[[Brettanomyces]]'' can produce forms of tetrahydropyridine in varying amounts, although some below threshold. Additionally, Lactic Acid Bacteria (LAB) including ''[[Lactobacillus]]'' and ''[[Pediococcus] on Homebrewtalk ]'' can produce forms of THP. Acetic Acid Bactera (AAB) has also been demonstrated to produce forms of THP <ref name="Snowdon"></ref><ref name="Grbin_2000" />. Moulis et al. (2023) studied THP production by 22 strains of ''Brettanomyces bruxellensis'', 20 strains of ''Oenococcus oeni'' and 10 strains of ''Lentilactobacillus hilgardii'' (formerly classified as ''Lactobacillus hilgardii''), all of which have been reported to produce THP compounds. They found that all strains could produce ATHP, but not all strains could produce ETHP or APY. This variability was determined mostly by species, but also by strain. for example, all of the 22 ''B. bruxellensis'' strains only produced ATHP and ETHP and not APY. Variability between strains was less pronounced for collecting some the species ''L. hilgardii'' compared to the ''B. bruxellensis'' and ''O. oeni'' strains (different strains of ''B. bruxellensis'', for example, produced much different levels of ATHP/ETHP, where as every strain of ''L. hilgardii'' produced relatively the same amount of APY). The researchers also noted that repeatability of THP levels was difficult to achieve, and they owed this to unknown variables such as the physiological state of the cells at time of inoculation into the test media. Interestingly, there was no correlation between strain genealogy and how much THP they produced. The researchers also isolated other species from 25 French wines with mouse taint, including ''S. cerevisiae'', ''Pichia manshurica'', ''Priceomyces carsonii'', ''Pediococcus parvulus'', but none of these resourcesstrains produced THP in the test growth media <ref name="Moulis_2023" />. ===''Brettanomyces'' ===
The level of ATHP production varies widely between species and strains of ''Brettanomyces'', with some strains producing insignificant amounts and others producing very high amounts above taste threshold <ref name==Thresholds=="Grbin_2000" />. Additionally, ATHP production requires glucose or fructose, which explains why ATHP may be seen more often in stuck wine fermentations rather than wine that has finished fermenting. ATHP production by ''Brettanomyces'' was observed in wine with glucose or fructose added, along with synthetic growth media, suggesting that the type of growth substrate does not effect production <ref>[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194246 Growth and volatile compound production by Brettanomyces/Dekkera bruxellensis in red wine. Romano A, Perello MC, de Revel G, Lonvaud-Funel A. J Appl Microbiol. 2008 Jun.]</ref>.
The production of ATHP is not efficient, meaning that the amount of ATHP produced is not proportional to the amount of L-lysine consumed. Therefore, the production of ATHP appears to be a byproduct (secondary metabolite) of L-lysine catabolism <ref name="Snowdon"></ref>. ATHP is further metabolized into ETHP by ''Brettanomyces'', although not much is known about this metabolic process <ref>[http://ucce.ucdavis.edu/files/repositoryfiles/Joseph_5_Aromatic_Diverswity_of_Brettanomyces-82350.ppt Joseph, C.M. Lucy. ''Aromatic Diversity of Brettanomyces''. U.C. Davis. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref><ref name="Snowdon"></ref>. ETHP has a significantly higher taste threshold, and is often not detected in contaminated wine <ref name="Oelofse"></ref>. Although ''Brettanomyces'' is capable of producing APY from L-ornithine <ref name="Grbin_2007" />, the amount produced is much less than that of LAB and high amounts of L-ornithine are required. In wine, there isn't enough L-ornithine present to production significant amounts of APY from L-ornithine. Therefore, the presence of APY (which is much easier to detect aromatically than ATHP) indicates a bacterial contamination in wine (it is unknown if this applies to beer) <ref name="Snowdon"></ref>. Additionally, Moulis et al. (2023) found that out of 25 French wines with THP, only 20% of them had ''B. bruxellensis'' in them, indicating that THP is mostly produced by bacteria or chemically in wine <ref name="Moulis_2023" />. The presence of the "mousy off-flavor" caused by forms of THP appears to be temporary in beer. Although not much is known about the degradation or metabolic breakdown of ATHP/ETHP, it tends to age out of beer after 2-6 months. Since the odor/taste threshold for ETHP is much higher than ATHP, and ATHP appears to be metabolized into ETHP by ''Brettanomyces'' over time, this may be one of the mechanisms by which the mousy off-flavor ages out of beer. The possibility of ETHP breakdown is not mentioned in any studies that we know of, although Moulis et al. (2023) reported that for organisms that produced ETHP, there was always a 1:10 ratio between ETHP/ATHP or ETHP/APY, suggesting that this ratio might be governed by the chemistry of the media used and/or the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduction_potential reduction potential] <ref name="Moulis_2023" />. This was confirmed by second study by Moulis when ''B. bruxellensis'' was co-fermented or not co-fermented with APY-producing strains of ''Pediococcus paravulus'' <ref name="Moulis_2024">[https://oeno-one.eu/article/view/8060 Moulis, P., Miot-Sertier, C., Franc, C., Riquier, L., Beisert, B., Marchand, S., … Ballestra, P. (2024). Impact of Pediococcus parvulus and Saccharomyces cerevisiae on Brettanomyces bruxellensis mousy compound production. OENO One, 58(3). https://doi.org/10.20870/oeno-one.2024.58.3.8060]</ref>. Another unknown is why does ''Brettanomyces'' produce ATHP shortly after kegging and force carbonating a beer that has reached final gravity. The most likely cause is oxygen pick up during the kegging process. Pitching fresh ''Saccharomyces'' at bottling/kegging time and naturally carbonating the beer with sugar has reportedly reduced mousy off-flavor detection, perhaps because ''Saccharomyces'' metabolizes both the oxygen and sugar faster than ''Brettanomyces''. ====Co-fermentation with LAB====Moulis et al (2024) published a second study where they measured ATHP, ETHP, and APY produced by three ATHP/ETHP-producing strains of ''B. bruxellensis'' and three strains of APY-producing ''Pediococcus parvulus''. They measured levels of these three THP compounds when one of each ''B. bruxellensis'' was co-fermented with one each of the strains of ''P. parvulus''. They compared these levels to when each pair (one strain of ''B. bruxellensis'' and one strain of ''P. parvulus'') were fermented on their own, and then summed the total levels of each THP compound between the two separate fermentations. They found that APY levels, which was only produced by the ''P. parvulus' strains and not the ''B. bruxellensis'' strains, were much lower if the strains were co-fermented with any of the three strains of ''B. bruxellensis'. However, for ATHP and ETHP, 2 of the 3 strains of ''B. bruxellensis'' produced different levels of ATHP or ETHP when ''P. parvulus'' was co-fermented with them. The strain of ''P. parvulus'' also had an impact on this co-fermentation; some combinations of co-ferments produced more ATHP but less ETHP. The study concluded that the impact of co-fermentation inhibits APY produced by bacteria despite the strains used, and it can have an inhibitory or stimulatory impact on ATHP/ETHP, depending on the combinations of strains. The authors suggested several possible explanations <ref name="Moulis_2024" />: <blockquote>Previous results (Strickland et al., 2016) showed that less 4-ethylphenol (EP), a compound contributing to the “Brett character” in wine, was produced when ''P. parvulus'' and ''B. bruxellensis'' were jointly inoculated rather than separately. Here, ''P. parvulu''s and ''B. bruxellensis'' produce more ATHP and no APY at all when they are together. There are several hypotheses to explain that. First, Moulis (Moulis, 2023), proposed that ATHP production could correspond to a signal or a response to a signal between the different cells of ''B. bruxellensis'', to respond to stress. Here, ''B. bruxellensis'' could reply to the stress of the presence of ''P. parvulus'' by ATHP over-production. ''P. parvulus'' could thus directly influence the metabolism of ''B. bruxellensis'', resulting in the production of more ATHP than 4-ethylphenol in its presence. A second hypothesis is that ''B. bruxellensis'' could change the balance of acylation by ''P. parvulus''. Costello and Henschke (2002) proposed a formation pathway for APY and ATHP by LAB from ornithine and lysine, respectively. This formation pathway, in both cases, ends up with acylation (of piperideine for ATHP and of pyrroline for APY). ''B. bruxellensis'' could inhibit APY production either by inhibiting the pathway or by preferentially inducing ATHP acylation by ''P. parvulus''. Moreover, one of the production routes proposed by Grbin et al. (2007) involves cadaverine as a biosynthetic intermediate. Lactic acid bacteria such as ''O. oeni'' or ''P. parvulus'' are known to produce large quantities of biogenic amines (Granchi et al., 2005; Wade et al., 2019) and they can biosynthesise cadaverine to be metabolised by ''B. bruxellensis''. It would be interesting to explore these hypotheses in a future study <ref name="Moulis_2024" />.</blockquote> Moulis et al (2024) also attempted to study the effects of co-fermenting ''B. bruxellensis'' with ''Saccharomyces cerevisiae''; however, the definitive results were not presented due to a technical issue with the equipment used to measure THP compounds. Nonetheless, the authors suggested that ATHP and ETHP appeared to be higher when ''B. bruxellensis'' was co-fermented with ''S. cerevisiae'' versus when fermented on its own. The authors hypothesized that this could be due to more acetaldehyde production by ''S. cerevisiae'', which has been identified as a precursor to ATHP production. Another possibility would be nutrients released from less produced by ''S. cerevisiae'' <ref name="Moulis_2024" />. ===Lactic Acid Bacteria===[[File:THP path bacteria.JPG|thumbnail|right|[http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf020341r Proposed pathway of APY and ATHP by ''L. hilgardii'' by Costello and Henschke (2002).]]] Heterofermentative [[Lactobacillus]] spp., particularly ''L. hilgardii'' (reclassified as ''Lentilactobacillus hilgardii'') and ''L. brevis'' (reclassified as ''Levilactobacillus brevis''), as well as ''Leuconostoc oeni'' <ref name="Grbin_1996" />, can also produce high levels of ATHP, and to a lesser extent APY and ETHP from L-lysine/L-ornithine, ethanol (must be present), and iron. Although many strains of heterofermentative lactic acid bacteria can produce THP, not all do. For example, Costello et al (2008) found that all strains tested of ''L. brevis'' (3 strains tested), ''L. bucherni'' (3 strains tested), and ''L.hilgardii'' (8 strains tested) produced THP, several heterofermentative species did not produce any detectable levels of THP in a grape-based media (one strain each of ''L. fermentum'' and ''L. cellobiosus''). Some strains within a species produce high amounts while others produce low amounts, for example Costell et al. (2008) found that some strains of ''O. oeni'' produced very high amounts between 50-150 µg/L while others produced very little between 5-20 µg/L in a grape-based media <ref name="Costello_2008">[http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1755-0238.2001.tb00205.x/abstract Ability of lactic acid bacteria to produce N-heterocycles causing mousy off-flavour in wine. PETER J. COSTELLO1, TERRY H. LEE1, and PAULA. HENSCHKE. 2008.]</ref>. A strain of ''L. plantarum'' (L11a) was shown to produce relatively low amounts. L-lysine stimulates production of ATHP, and L-ornithine stimulates the production of APY <ref name="Costello">[http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf020341r Mousy Off-Flavor of Wine: Precursors and Biosynthesis of the Causative N-Heterocycles 2-Ethyltetrahydropyridine, 2-Acetyltetrahydropyridine, and 2-Acetyl-1-pyrroline by Lactobacillus hilgardii DSM 20176. Peter J. Costello and Paul A. Henschke. 2002.]</ref><ref>[http://www.ajevonline.org/content/37/2/127.abstract Formation of Substituted Tetrahydropyridines by Species of Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus Isolated from Mousy Wines. Tamila Heresztyn. 1986.]</ref><ref name="Costello_2008" /><ref>Sparrows, Jeff. ''Wild Brews''. Brewers Publications. 2005. Pg. 112.</ref><ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=tFjsAuo5WocC&pg=PA348&lpg=PA348&dq=lactobacillus+Tetrahydropyridine&source=bl&ots=QUVyoFtIwK&sig=h1cdjB0r1pIRX2Bms8wVA0UiLk4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4DX_VPz5CsH6oQSAzoGgBA&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=lactobacillus%20Tetrahydropyridine&f=false Lahtinen, Ouwehand, Salminen, von Wright. Lactic Acid Bacteria: Microbiological and Functional Aspects, Fourth Edition. Pg 348.]</ref><ref>[http://ajevonline.org/content/37/2/127.short Heresztyn, Tamila. Formation of Substituted Tetrahydropyridines by Species of Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus Isolated from Mousy Wines.]</ref>. Acetaldehyde has a stimulatory effect on ATHP and APY production, but is not required. No studies have been done to show whether or not oxygen plays a role in ATHP/APY production in LAB <ref name="Snowdon"></ref>. Most species of [[Pediococcus]] do not create forms of THP, although a few species do produce relatively small amounts. In particular, these include ''P. pentosaceus'' <ref>[http://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/Q03HT0 UniProt article. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref><ref>[http://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/U5ZF76 UniProt article. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref>, and ''P. clausenii'' <ref>[http://www.uniprot.org/uniprot/G8PEU4 UniProt article. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref>, although one study found no THP in two strains of ''P. pentocaseus'' and only transient/occasional THP production in one out of five strains of ''P. parvulus'' <ref name="Costello" />. ''Oenococcus oeni'' and ''Leuconostoc mesenteroides'' have also been associated with creating ATHP, APY, and ETHP all above threshold amounts. Since only heterofermentative species produce significant amounts of THP, it is thought that its production is linked to the heterolactic pathway, and thus the metabolism of sugars in LAB <ref name="Costello"></ref>. A pathway for APY and ATHP production in ''Lactobacillus hilgardii'' was proposed by Costello and Henschke, which involves the intake of lysine or ornithine, along with ethanol (which is broken down into acetaldehyde) to produce APY and ATHP <ref name="Costello" />. ''Lactobacillus pontis'' has been shown to break down proteins via proteolysis, yielding free amino acids such as ornithine which could serve as precursors to THP formation, and it might be [[Lactobacillus#Foam_Degradation|reasonable to presume]] that other species of ''Lactobacillus'' could also free up ornithine as a precursor to THP <ref name="Adams_2005" />. ===Acetic Acid Bacteria and Mould===Although research is limited, acetic acid bacteria (''Gluconobacter'' sp. and many strains of ''Acetobacter aceti'') have been shown to produce forms of THP <ref name="Snowdon"></ref>. Mediterranean dried sauses covered in [[Mold|mould]] have been characterized as having APY as a flavor contributor. The source of the APY was identified with a mould that grows on the surface called ''Peniciilium nalgiovense'' <ref name="Adams_2005" />. Moulis et al. (2023) identified several strains of acetic acid bacteria in 32% of selected French wines with mouse taint, but none of the strains produced THP when tested individually in model medium <ref name="Moulis_2023" />. ===Impact from ''Saccharomyces''===While ''S. cerevisiae'' does not produce THP compounds itself, there is some preliminary data that suggests that the strain of ''S. cerevisiae'' could impact ATHP and ETHP levels. Data from the Moulis et al. (2023) study shows that ATHP levels different slightly depending on which strain of ''S. cerevisiae'' was co-inoculated with ''Brettanomnyces''. The authors hypothesize that differing levels of acetaldehyde or build up of lees may be the reason different strains of ''S. cerevisiae'' might have an impact <ref>[https://ives-technicalreviews.eu/article/view/9206 "Does Saccharomyces cerevisiae play a supporting role in mousy off-flavours production?" Pierre Moulis, Cécile Miot-Sertier, Céline Franc, Laurent Riquier, Beata Beisert, Stéphanie Marchand, Gilles de Revel, Doris Rauhut, Patricia Ballestra. Published: 7 March 2025. DOI: https://doi.org/10.20870/IVES-TR.2025.9206.]</ref>. ===Maillard Reactions===It's been shown that various THP compounds can be produced from heat reactions. For example, heating proline with monosaccharides produces a small amount of APY, as does the heating of yeast and sucrose. Phosphate ions are high contributors to THP production via heat reactions, with the amino acids proline, ornithine, and citrulline being precursors (the first two of which are important amino acids in yeast), and 1-pyrroline being the intermediary step. Ornithine is the precursor to heat produced ATHP in bread making <ref>[https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01197621 The role of free amino acids present in yeast as precursors of the odorants 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline and 2-acetyltetrahydropyridine in wheat bread crust. Peter Schieberle. 1990.]</ref><ref name="Adams_2005" />. 2-Acetyl-1-pyrroline forms from Maillard reactions and is key to the aroma of cooked Lipu taro <ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1878450X2400101X Xiatao Zhou, Liqiong Wen, Jinshan Xiao, Xueying Mo, Peng Wan, De-Wei Chen. 2- Acetyl-1-pyrroline originated from Maillard reaction is the key odorant of cooked Lipu taro. International Journal of Gastronomy and Food Science, 2024, 100968. ISSN 1878-450X. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijgfs.2024.100968.]</ref>. These reactions mostly occur at a relatively basic pH (7-9) <ref>[https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/jf970990g 2-Oxopropanal, Hydroxy-2-propanone, and 1-PyrrolineImportant Intermediates in the Generation of the Roast-Smelling Food Flavor Compounds 2-Acetyl-1-pyrroline and 2-Acetyltetrahydropyridine. Thomas Hofmann, and Peter Schieberle. 1998. DOI: 10.1021/jf970990g.]</ref>. ===Oxygen Reactions===(In Progress) Grbin (1996) reported that some wines express mousy taint after oxidation <ref name="Grbin_1996" />, however, ATHP in food has been identified as being very volatile in the presence of oxygen <ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1021949815000277?via%3Dihub Reactivity and stability of selected flavor compounds. Monthana Weerawatanakorn, Jia-Ching Wu, Min-Hsiung Pan, Chi-Tang Ho. 2015. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jfda.2015.02.001.]</ref><ref name="Tempère_2019" />. Shilpi Halemane from Logsdon Farmhouse Ales anecdotally reported getting THP in bottles that were not purged properly on their bottling line, and this was detected at the end of the day on the same day <ref>"Wild Beer Curling: Course Correcting and Guiding Your Beer to Success". HomebrewCon Seminar. 2018.</ref> (~14:50 mins in). [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2374642255897308/ Lars Meiner reported THP development after heat pasteurizing a batch of homebrew]. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2381638895197644/?comment_id=2383092551718945&reply_comment_id=2383635071664693&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2053443891350481/?comment_id=2053628131332057&reply_comment_id=2054035171291353&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22508009/ ===THP in Kettle Souring===THP or THP-like flavors have been reported in the kettle souring process in commercial brewing. This could be caused by using a heterofermentative species of ''Lactobacillus'' that is able to produce THP, but it has also been reported when an extended second boil was performed. Alex Wright reported that At Halo Brewery brewmaster Callum Hay was able to remove a THP-like flavor from their kettle sours by eliminating the boil time during the pasteurization step of kettle souring (the second boil) and displacing the trub at the bottom of the kettle. It was hypothesized that the boiling and perhaps the trub at the bottom of the kettle that built up after a 24 hour souring process was being heated by their direct fire system, causing Maillard reactions that resulted in pyradines. By scrapping the trub off of the bottom of the boil kettle, and replacing the second boil with a 75°C (167°F) 10 minute rest/whirlpool, they were able to remove this flavor <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2381638895197644/?comment_id=2383092551718945&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D Alex Wright. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on THP in kettle sours. 11/24/2018.]</ref>. However, Alan Simons (and possibly others) contradict this by reporting no THP-like flavors when doing an extended second boil after kettle souring <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2381638895197644/?comment_id=2383092551718945&reply_comment_id=2383152158379651&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R6%22%7D Alan Simons. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on THP in kettle sours. 11/24/2018.]</ref>. Josh Kauffman reported that by switching from a 60 minute post-boil (after souring the wort with ''Lactobacillus'') to a 15-20 minute pasteurization rest at 180°F reduced the THP-like flavors in their kettle soured beer <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2425689770792556/ Josh Kauffman. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread about THP in kettle sours. 12/18/2018.]</ref>. [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2436338106394389/ Several other brewers in MTF] have also reported reducing THP-like flavors by shortening the second boil. There are no controlled experiments that we know of that confirm any of these reports. Whether or not THP compounds could be created in beer via Maillard reactions has not been proven, and is unlikely. Richard Preiss offered another hypothesis that perhaps the turbulence and heat of boiling inflicts more lysed (destroyed) cells, which release THP into the beer, and that perhaps pasteurization at a lower temperature kills the cells but does not destroy their cell walls <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2436338106394389/?comment_id=2436394306388769&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D Kristen England and Matt Humbard. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on THP compounds being formed in kettle sours via Maillard reactions. 12/28/2018.]</ref><ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2436338106394389/?comment_id=2444991628862370&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D Richard Preiss. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on THP in kettle sours. 01/03/2019.]</ref>. ==Thresholds and Quantities Found in Mousy Wine== ::''Editor's note: the following thresholds are from a study studies on wine, and may not hold true for beer. As stated above, detection is influenced by pH, and so the low pH of sour beer may have the similar effect of repressing odor (more so) and taste (less so) detection, whereas non-sour Brettanomyces beers may have a higher detection rate.'' * 2-ethyltetrahydropyridine (ETHP/ETPY) ** Taste Odor threshold (wine): 150 µg/L** Concentration reported in wines exhibiting mousy off-flavour: 2.7-18.7 µg/L(ETHP is generally not the cause of the detected mousy off-flavor)* 2-acetyltetrahydropyridine (/ATHP/ACTPY) -
** Odor threshold (water): 1.6 µg/L
** Concentration reported in wines exhibiting mousy off-flavour: 4.8-106 µg/L(ATHP is generally the cause of the detected mousy off-flavor)* 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline (ACPY)APY
** Odor threshold (water): 0.1 µg/L
** Concentration reported in wines exhibiting mousy off-flavour: Tr-Trace quantities up to 7.8 µg/L <ref name="Snowdon"></ref><ref>[http://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/56335/OARDC_HCS_0744_ppt_18_Gerstenbriand.pdf?sequence=27 Malolactic Fermentation 2005. Geneva on the Lake. Feb 2005. Retrieved 3/10/2015.]</ref> Since a low pH hinders the detection of THP, one detection used by winemakers is to rub some wine on one's palm and smelling for THP. A more reliable method is to dip an alkaline paper strip into the wine, and then smelling the strip to detect the aroma of THP <ref name="Grbin_1996" />. ==Off Flavor Kits==* [https://www.flavoractiv.com/store/usd/grid/#mousy FlavorActIV's "Mousy" flavor for wine (ATHP).] <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2446133148748218/?comment_id=2446182895409910&reply_comment_id=2446243925403807&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R1%22%7D Richard Preiss. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on THP spikes. 01/03/2018.]</ref>* [https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/134759?lang=en®ion=US 1,2,3,6-Tetrahydropyridine on Sigma-Aldrich.]
==Discussions==
===What We Don't Know===
# How does oxygen affect THP production biochemically?
# How much oxygen has an effect, and is there a maximum amount of dissolved oxygen that would be insignificant in its production?
# Does [[Aging_and_Storage#Bottle_Orientation|bottle orientation]] during storage have an effect? (Jeff Porn and Shawn Savuto both reported THP only when storing bottles horizintally; see [[Aging_and_Storage#Bottle_Orientation|Bottle Orientation]]).
# Does creating an [[Packaging#Acid_Shock_Starters|acid tolerance starter]] for conditioning yeast affect THP production?
# How do THP off-flavors age out of beer (hypothesis: ATHP is metabolized into ETHP by ''Brettanomyces'', or somehow chemically degraded into ETHP)?
# Does storage temperature play a role in the degradation of THP off-flavors (cold vs room temp vs hot)?
# What genetic phenotypes determine high THP production in some strains of ''Brettanomyces'' and not others?
# What role does acetic acid bacteria play in THP production?
# What are the unidentified transient forms of THP, and do they apply to beer or just wine?
# Does the release of lysine from yeast autolysis when aging on trub increase THP potential (some say it does in wine and cider <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1852891514739054/ Tariq Ahmed of Revel Cider. Milk The Funk Facebook thread on THP in wines/ciders aged on lees. 10/16/2017.]</ref>)?
# Are other species of yeast such as wild ''S. cerevisiae'' capable of producing THP <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2069944559700414/ Zach Taggart. Milk The Funk Facebook group thread on other yeast species producing THP. 04/24/2018.]</ref>?
# Do sulphites bind to THP molecules, rendering them unperceivable <ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2069944559700414/?comment_id=2070023539692516&reply_comment_id=2074259392602264&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D Otto Forsberg. Milk The Funk Post discussion on THP and sulfites. 04/27/2018.]</ref>?
<nowiki>*</nowiki> Due to the specialized GC/MS equipment needed for measuring forms of THP that most labs do not have, certain answers will be difficult to obtain. Some studies have used alkaline strips as a way to smell the aroma of THP, and while not as precise as the specialized GC/MS lab equipment, could still help further the understanding of THP. These strips were prepared in the following way: knowing that mousy off-flavour has a lingering sensory impact, the technique of alkaline paper strip assessment was adapted from Heresztyn (1986a). Paper strips (Whatman No. 1, 4–5 mm × 50 mm) were prepared by soaking in NaOH (0.1M) and drying overnight at room temperature. The alkaline paper strips were then briefly dipped into cell-free samples (centrifuged) and immediately assessed for the mouse-like odour by sniffing <ref>Private correspondence with Dr.
Paul Grbin by Dan Pixley. 11/2/2017.</ref>.
===MTF Threads and Other Forum Posts===
Below is a list of discussions on internet forum threads that may shed light on specific strains and individual experiences. Keep in mind that many of the opinions and experiences are anecdotal, although commonalities and shared experiences may prove to be useful and accurate.
* [https://www.masterbrewerspodcast.com/326 MBAA podcast episode 326, "THP" with Paulina Streimikyte and Glen Fox.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1766965029998370/ Joe Idnoni from House Cat Brewing and Brian Ogden from Attaboy Beer report that Caseinate de Potassium (a fining agent used in wine-making) was used to significantly reduce THP off-flavors in a kettle sour beer.] Note that casein is a milk allergen, and might require declaration as a milk allergen (refer to your local government requirements) <ref>[https://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm456836.htm "UPDATED - Allergy Alert on Undeclared Milk in Nutrition Resource Services, Inc.'s Whey, Casein, and Colostrum Protein Products". FDA website. 08/03/2015. Retrieved 12/21/2017.]</ref>.* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1852891514739054/ Tariq Ahmed of Revel Cider discusses their protocol for reducing THP in spontaneously fermented ciders.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2627026050658926/?comment_id=2628780327150165&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D Chris Cates with thoughts on water profile (sulfate) increasing the perception of THP in sour beer.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1624811250880416/ MTF thread detailing experiences with certain strains and procedures (03/24/2017).]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1967129246648613/ Milk The Funk thread on THP flavor spikes and other sensory testing approaches.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2015071285187742/ Milk The Funk thread on anecdotal experiences of THP forming in beer lines.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/posts/7626497387378409/ Milk The Funk thread reporting an anecdote by Henrik Ventzel that adding some DME and fresh Nottingham yeast to a sour with THP and cleared up THP after 2 months.] * [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1034461653248715/ General Milk The Funk Thread on March 10, 2015.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1134644959897050/ General Milk The Funk Thread on Aug 25, 2015.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1149568535071359/ General Milk The Funk Threadon 09/17/2015.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/2934892606538934/ MTF thread on THP in natural wine, and increased awareness of THP in wine. as a result.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/4042481855779998/ MTF thread on removing THP from wine made with low or no sulphite.]* [https://www.masterbrewerspodcast.com/237 MBAA Podcast 237: David Fuhrer on bottle conditioning using the German speise method (similar to krausening) reduces THP.]
* [http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/brett-strain-production-athp-449852/#post6752813 Homebrewtalk thread started by "ne0t0ky0".]
* [http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f127/cheerios-character-after-bottling-504468/ Homebrewtalk thread started by "loctones", comments by Michael Tonsmeire.]
* [http://www.babblebelt.com/newboard/thread.html?tid=1108752780&th=1277680358 Babblebelt thread with comments by Chad Yakobson.]
* [http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2013/09/dry-hopped-sour-two-ways.html Michael Tonsmeire observes that adding fresh Saccharomyces at bottling time seems to reduce THP production, versus force carbonating.]* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/10536762446605891149568535071359/?comment_id=10537367613212041159597500735129&offset=0&total_comments=3017&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R022R%22%7D Richie Preiss suggests that there is no difference in how long it takes to age out Kyle Weniger from Joseph James Brewing Co noticed significantly improved THP between reduction storing the a split batch of beer at room temperature or refrigeration temperature based versus storing cold.]* [http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-brewing-network/the-sour-hour/e/the-sour-hour-episode-8-37471621 Chad Yakobson on a side by side test The Sour Hour, 3/11/2015 (around 50 minute mark) - indicates that he didhas been researching THP for 2 years, and is continuing this research. Little else is mentioned.] ==See Also=====Additional Articles on MTF Wiki===* ''[[Lactobacillus]]''* [[Butyric Acid]]* [[Isovaleric Acid]]* [[Mixed Fermentation]] ===External Resources===* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-7IDTlg23o THP overview presentation by Richard Preiss at Escarpment Laboratories.]* [https://punchdrink.com/articles/natural-wine-flaw-mouse/ "The Wine Flaw of Our Times," by John McCarroll.]
==References==
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