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| [http://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcast/episode-13-olive-oil-and-black-man Interview with Barrett Tillman of Black Man Yeast] || 2016-04 || We go to Dallas where Drew talks with Barrett Tillman of both [https://squareup.com/market/blackmanyeast Black Man Yeast] and Deep Ellum Brewing Company about his experiences as a brewer, his love of all things sour and funky and why he decided to start a mini-yeast company. Interview starts at ~50 minutes in.
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| [https://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcast/brew-files-episode-3-michael-tonsmeire-fails-gracefully-cloning-oerbier Michael Tonsmeire Fails Gracefully At Cloning Oerbier] || 2012017-02 || On this week's episode of the Brew Files, Drew sits down with Mike Tonsmeire, aka Old Sock, aka The Mad Fermentationist and author of American Sour Beers. The focus of their talk - Mike's love of and attempt to brew in the vein of De Dolle's Oerbier Reserva. He talks about what went right and what went wrong and how to respond when things don't quite go to plan. See also [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1577498892278319/?comment_id=1577806758914199&reply_comment_id=1577813318913543&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R0%22%7D recipe feedback from MTF].
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