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'''Sour Herb, Spice and Vegetable beer''' is mixed fermentation , sour or sour brett beer with the addition of spices, herbs or vegetables. These beers, along with [[Soured Fruit Beer|Soured Fruit Beers]] would fall into the [http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf 2015 BJCP style] of 28C - Wild Specialty Beer. Here we will discuss the use of spices, herbs and vegetables in sour beers and give recommendations based off of those brewed by MTFers and commercial brewers.

(To do)For spices, generally fresher is better. Whole spices maintain their freshness better than pre-crushed spices, and it is recommended to use the freshest spices you can get and to crush them fresh right before using them rather than to use pre-crushed spices. On a home scale this can be easily accomplished with a mortar and pestle. Commercial producers may find that blenders or coffee grinders are better for larger spice quantities. Smell you spices before using them. If they seem stale or muted, it might be a good idea to look for fresher spices. Some types of spices, such and flowers or leavescitrus zest, may not need to be crushed before use. These spices can be found fresh as well as dried, and fresh spices will generally have stronger or more complex aromatics. For zesting your own citrus fresh, both a zester or a vegetable peeler will work to remove the zest. Using a vegetable peeler may give more complexity<ref>[http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2014/09/lemon-berliner-weisse-recipe.html Mad Fermentationist Lemon Berliner Recipe]</ref>, and peelers give more manageable pieces of peel.

Spices are commonly added between flameout on the hot side and secondary on the cold side. In order to preserve the aromatic properties of spices, they are generally better added later in the brewing process. They can also be added by preparing tinctures and dosing the beer or by soaking the soaking the spices in hot water in a sealed mason jar and then adding the mixture. Both of these methods can help to limit the possibility of microbe pickup from adding spices on the cold side.

Tinctures, etc==Herbs==Herbs can be used fresh or dried.