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In food, ''Tetrahydropyridine'' is associated with the aroma of baked goods such as white bread, popcorn, and tortillas, and is formed by Maillard reactions during heating. ATHP and ACPY have an odor threshold of 0.06ng/l <ref name="wikipedia"></ref>. | In food, ''Tetrahydropyridine'' is associated with the aroma of baked goods such as white bread, popcorn, and tortillas, and is formed by Maillard reactions during heating. ATHP and ACPY have an odor threshold of 0.06ng/l <ref name="wikipedia"></ref>. | ||
| − | It is worth noting that although this flavor is associated with off flavors in wine, it may not be completely undesirable in sour beers at low levels. At moderate to high levels, the flavor is considered distracting and should be considered an off flavor in sour beers. | + | It is worth noting that although this flavor is associated with off flavors in wine, it may not be completely undesirable in sour beers at low levels (the exact amount, if any amount at all, that is allowable without considering it an off flavor appears to be a point of debate/personal opinion). At moderate to high levels, the flavor is considered distracting and should be considered an off flavor in sour beers. |
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Revision as of 16:52, 10 March 2015
Introduction
Forms of Tetrahydropyridine (specifically 6-Acetyl-2,3,4,5-tetrahydropyridine (ATHP/ACTPY) and 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline (ACPY) [1]) are commonly attributed to the mousy, urine (in high amounts) cheerios (in low amounts), or more generically, cracker biscuit flavor in sour beers. The exact cause of this perceived flavor is not definitive. However, Tetrahydropyridine seems to be the most likely cause. Dimethyl Sulfide has also been indicated as a potential cause to this flavor in sour beers, probably due to the similar popcorn flavor that DMS can provide. The flavor tends to age out of sour beers, although the exact mechanism for this is not fully understood [2]. Michael Tonsmeire also noticed that pitching rehydrated wine yeast at bottling reduces the amount/duration of this flavor [3].
In food, Tetrahydropyridine is associated with the aroma of baked goods such as white bread, popcorn, and tortillas, and is formed by Maillard reactions during heating. ATHP and ACPY have an odor threshold of 0.06ng/l [1].
It is worth noting that although this flavor is associated with off flavors in wine, it may not be completely undesirable in sour beers at low levels (the exact amount, if any amount at all, that is allowable without considering it an off flavor appears to be a point of debate/personal opinion). At moderate to high levels, the flavor is considered distracting and should be considered an off flavor in sour beers.
Production
Editor's note: special thanks to ne0t0ky0 on Homebrewtalk for collecting some of these resources.
Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus, and Pediococcus can produce forms of Tetrahydropyridine. In Brettanomyces, 2-acetyl-3,4,5,6-tetrahydropyridine (ATHP/ACTPY) can be metabolized by the amino acid L-Lysine and ethanol with oxygen having a stimulatory effect in it's production, although little else is known about it's production in Brettanomyces [4]. ATHP is further metabolized into 2-ethyltetrahydropyridine (ETHP/ETPY) by Brettanomyces, although not much is known about this metabolic process either [5].
Heterofermentative Lactobacillus spp. can also produce ATHP and ETHP from Lysine and ethanol [6][7][8].
Some species of Pediococcus have been associated with the production of ATHP. In particular, these include P. pentosaceus [9][10], and P. clausenii [11].
Thresholds
Editor's note: the following thresholds are from a study on wine, and may not hold true for beer.
- 2-ethyltetrahydropyridine (ETHP/ETPY)
- Taste threshold (wine): 150 µg/L
- Concentration reported in wines exhibiting mousy off-flavour: 2.7-18.7 µg/L
- 2-acetyltetrahydropyridine (/ATHP/ACTPY) -
- Odor threshold (water): 1.6 µg/L
- Concentration reported in wines exhibiting mousy off-flavour: 4.8-106 µg/L
- 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline (ACPY)
- Odor threshold (water): 0.1 µg/L
- Concentration reported in wines exhibiting mousy off-flavour: Tr-7.8 µg/L [12]
Discussions
Below is a list of discussions on internet forum threads that may shed light on specific strains and individual experiences. Keep in mind that many of the opinions and experiences are anecdotal, although commonalities and shared experiences may prove to be useful and accurate.
- Milk The Funk Thread
- Homebrewtalk thread started by "ne0t0ky0"
- Homebrewtalk thread started by "loctones", comments by Michael Tonsmeire
- Babblebelt thread with comments by Chad Yakobson
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 6-Acetyl-2,3,4,5-tetrahydropyridine. Wikipedia. Retrieved 3/210/2015.
- ↑ Tonsmeire, Michael. Homebrewtalk.com post 1. 11/21/2014. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ Tonsmeire, Michael. Homebrewtalk.com post 2. 11/21/2014. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ Yakobson, Chad. The Brettanomyces Project; Introduction. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ Joseph, C.M. Lucy. Aromatic Diversity of Brettanomyces. U.C. Davis. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ Sparrows, Jeff. Wild Brews. Brewers Publications. 2005. Pg. 112.
- ↑ Lahtinen, Ouwehand, Salminen, von Wright. Lactic Acid Bacteria: Microbiological and Functional Aspects, Fourth Edition. Pg 348.
- ↑ Heresztyn, Tamila. Formation of Substituted Tetrahydropyridines by Species of Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus Isolated from Mousy Wines.
- ↑ UniProt article. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ UniProt article. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ UniProt article. Retrieved 3/10/2015.
- ↑ Malolactic Fermentation 2005. Geneva on the Lake. Feb 2005. Retrieved 3/10/2015.